I don't know about Ubisoft, but it's hard to get all of them in the room at the same time.
I'm very fortunate that I do cross into many different fields. We get us in the room at one time and we get all the industry in the room and all the academics. I'm leaving for Toronto tonight because there's a research consortium board meeting of all the universities across Canada doing games-related research, but it's a bunch of academics and one or two industry people. It's challenging.