I don't know which arm the NCE, Networks of Centres of Excellence, comes under. I'm not a federal.... So the degree to which the researchers collaborate with industry—in fact Ubisoft is listed in some of those research projects as collaborators and industry partners—has a direct impact on who we fund more or less, because we want to make sure that researchers aren't up in the ivory towers just pontificating but are doing stuff that's relevant to industry.
That I think is quite unique to Canada. I don't see in my worldly travels many consortiums of that degree. They're funded $25 million for five-year chunks and are actually doing their renewal right this summer so hopefully we'll get another $25 million to keep going.
This linkage between industry and academia is critical. I think to also touch on the—