So 15 years give or take. The reason I'm focusing on the grads is that if we have 65 institutions that are graduating these pretty bright kids to do the kind of stuff you want to hire, and it strikes me the other 309 organizations across Canada that you don't represent have probably been doing that for a while, or do you even know that? I don't know.
On March 5th, 2014. See this statement in context.