I can add something to that.
I went to DMZ for the first time two years ago. The simple fact of walking in there was part of what I told you was my aha moment about what can be done. I think for a lot of us who have visited those places, we just feel the vibe—there's no other way to explain it—in those spaces, to see how rich they are.
I also think that Communitech is a phenomenal regional example. I don't know how familiar you are with Kitchener and that whole ecosystem of start-ups. You might remember the old cellphone champions. We've had many other champions throughout the generations come out of that area. When you go for breakfast with one guy in the start-up community, at Communitech, by the time you show up at lunch, the guy at lunch knows who you met at breakfast.
The regional communities are really important. I agree with the networking because it's helped me, but for me, most important is the focus on each region. I wouldn't necessarily verticalize it; that I'm not an adopter of, because I believe innovation is an organic thing. At Concordia we have research in nanos. We have research in power transmission. We have research in a lot of these exponential technologies, including artificial intelligence. We have to let those ecosystems come of their own. If you try to regulate it too much, or organize it too much, I think you're going to defeat the purpose, personally.
In terms of verticalization, I wouldn't be on the same bandwagon, but certainly I'm on the bandwagon that says we need regional communities that are very, very strong. Communitech is the best example I've seen on the frigging planet, and I've visited across the planet. It's a very rich model to follow. Iain Klugman is a phenomenal man for having created that, and he did it mostly out of cause and belief.