I think you have to separate out EDC's activities a bit. They are there to support Canadian interests in export markets. I think what we're looking at is what we can do in Canadian markets. Sometimes it's harder for a Canadian company to win in Canada than it is for a Canadian company to win on an export contract because of EDC. It's been a great success for Canada. It's probably one of Canada's great success stories.
We need better in-Canada funding for Canadian parts and products. COFACE, if I'm saying that right, is the domestic equivalent of EDC in some regards, and it'd be good to have that. I'd also expand it and stronger.
We also note that, in our funding arrangements with organizations like IRAP, should we move to the United States or elsewhere in the world, we would have an obligation to pay back the IRAP money. I think that's an important innovation that's come in fairly recently, which recognizes that the Government of Canada is helping us, but also recognizes that we have to survive in the world markets and don't know what's going to happen. At least Canada is going to get some funds back.
I think you raise an important issue. I really can't stand seeing the deindustrialization of Canada, and I think this is a horrible situation we must change.