This is the thing that disturbs me. I come from an automotive town, and when we consider purchasing a vehicle, we talk about buying North American. That means with the supply line in North America predominantly being Canada and the United States. There's no problem with that as opposed to buying from offshore where there is obviously a lot less production connected to us. There was one particular case. We've talked a lot about getting credit or getting access to resources that can be taxpayer funded or backed. The concern is that if we subsidize that and then the product manufactured is something else, then this becomes an issue.
I want to point to one specific example that I'd like to get some commentary about. I meet with BDC and EDC in particular. Just this past month EDC decided to give Volkswagen $500 million in low-interest loans, which are going to Arkansas, I believe, and Mexico for production facilities there. We hear a lot about small and medium-sized businesses not having resources or not getting access to credit to get their businesses off the ground and to actually include production. They can't get that or if they get it, it's at high interest rates from the banks.