From an IP perspective, you're right in speaking to the collaboration between industries. If you're working, uniting large and small companies is really the first step in being able to help them bridge that gap and get over that hurdle when it comes to challenges.
When it comes to this particular subject matter of IP and small businesses, I would have to hand this over to Mr. Gupta for a response. But thank you very much for asking me a question on my first attendance at one of these meetings and on my birthday.