Mr. Chair, a lot of the variability in the budget at the National Research Council is the budget of the industrial research and assistance program, IRAP. That was doubled by the government several years ago. The major increase you've seen in the overall budget is not on the internal operations of the National Research Council but the program to help industry. The internal operations are much more stable.
All government institutions have had some reductions, and as I was saying in the answer earlier, with the reorientation of the organization, they've also had to change the kinds of activities their employees are engaged in.