Thank you.
I'm afraid we're out of time for our first panel.
It's important to understand that, as committee members, if we can't get witnesses to say what they need to be saying on the record, then it doesn't enter into the report, so all manner of questions have to be asked and we don't want to assume anything. That is why this is so important. We know it will be complicated.
Thank you very much for coming in. We're going to suspend for a very quick two minutes to get the next panel in.