I would echo that. It's certainly the position of The Writers' Union of Canada. I'm not here to speak for them, but they make it very clear in a briefing note they provided to me that we need, and we had, a functioning collective licensing structure before the educational sector came up with their own interpretation of what they should be paying. They're continuing to use our content, and content published by publishers, yet they have decided they don't want to compensate us.