Yes. I mentioned them earlier, but I have them here before me. The best example, of course, is to give you my own numbers. I carefully looked these up for you before I came.
Prior to the Copyright Act we averaged close to $20,000 a year in copyright income. That was $18,500. In the last couple of years, it's been below $3,800 and has been dropping. I think most of the other publishers have experienced a similar decline.
That's a decline of about 400% for us. I also heard it argued that it's not a significant part of an income. I pointed out that it's almost 10% of our gross margins. That's really a significant part of our income.
I heard someone mention earlier today that according to Statistics Canada, the average profitability of publishers in Canada in 2016 was 10.1%. I can tell you that the profitability of independent publishers and literary publishers and not the multinationals—because basically they are skewing in the multinationals there—is between 4% and 5%.
To make a profit margin of 4% or 5% means that if there's the slightest fluctuation in your revenue, you stand to lose money. If you lose money, the independent proprietor basically has to write a cheque. I've been known to write some cheques in my time.