If I could, I'll jump in on that.
First of all, I'm really pleased about the collaborative nature of the conversation today, because one of the things that we've been saying for years is that it's both...and. We need more of everything in this country. We need more. We need to have ambition.
There's another piece around STEM. In talking with employers right across the country, some through the training group, some through the new Business Council of Canada, John Manley's group, and their survey data, which we read quite closely, what we're seeing is that yes, we need to have STEM, but we need those STEM students to understand the arts and social sciences, and we need the arts and social sciences to understand STEM. Finding ways to have interactive collaboration in that regard is going to be really important.