We've seen that in some recent comments as well. Thank you, both, for that.
On a different topic, Mr. Boyer, I'm really interested in the slides you showed us. I was having trouble keeping up with some of the potential opportunities. We don't have time in the committee to really dive into the topics, but one of the ones that really was interesting was getting all the players around the table. Something we've had problems with since the beginning of this study is trying to find out what parts of the market are working and what parts aren't working. There's general consensus that creators aren't getting paid their fair share, but is that because of copyright or not?
How could we suggest in our report how to bring all the players—the SOCANs and the Access Copyrights and the creators and the publishers—to the table? Who would those people be? How would we bring them together?