I think currently the system rewards regulators for being regulation makers, to add to the pile of regulation. That's what you get acknowledged for, that's what you get recognized for. I've talked to regulators who say that when you help get a big regulation, that's when you get your certification. You get something nice, a reward, a thank you.
I think ideally what we want to shift to is regulation makers turning into regulation managers, where they are doing a good job of protecting and keeping the important rules, but identifying red tape.
When you look at what happened in British Columbia, you see that it is a very powerful model. They've cut their rules in half, and they still have high levels of health and safety and environmental outcomes. In fact, in some areas, the outcomes are better.