Yes. I think that the other equity groups can look at SMEs, and they will look at them from a long-term perspective. You could negotiate for four, five, or six months, maybe a year, and that's great. I think we can still move ahead with that type of process. As for their finance group, unsecured loans don't necessarily mean that they're unsecured. That's not the case, especially for $500,000 and below. If it's true that they can support unsecured loans of $500,000 and below, then that's what it should mean.
When you start looking at small businesses like manufacturing, a single piece of equipment can cost $500,000. For a start-up app company that has a couple of computer scientists or engineers, that can last a while. For a manufacturing company, that doesn't last for the same amount, so there has to be some kind of thought process around how BDC can help manufacturers and help SMEs that use that capital equipment, because it does have value. I think it has to be taken into consideration. Those are some of the troubles we've had so far already.