Gentlemen, if I can try to make it a little easier here, a lot of the stuff that's coming out is really great stuff. I think meeting with the ministers is something that should happen, although I'm not sure what their time frame is like.
Mr. Nuttall, you mentioned the Business Development Bank. I've had my own dealings with the Business Development Bank. I was a consultant for them for 12 years at the time.
The challenge is that we have all these agencies here, but we really don't know what their mandates are. We really don't understand where they are coming from—their goals, their opportunities, even how they relate to innovation.
I find it difficult to try to understand how we move forward from that without getting an understanding of the individual agencies—maybe not all of them, but perhaps some of them. That might help us to clarify where they stand and what their issues are.
Go ahead, Mr. Nuttall.