Evidence of meeting #21 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was companies.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Julia Deans  Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada
Victoria Lennox  Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Startup Canada
Avvey Peters  Vice-President, External Relations, Communitech

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

I'm probably the bright spot, because I think they're doing the right thing through us. They're co-funding with our entrepreneurs. Forty percent of them are women. That's not an issue. They're doing more and more each year.

Hopefully that's a proof point that can encourage more things of that sort. I think they're doing the right thing by our young entrepreneurs. They're looking to be more active in helping them grow. That's, I think, a good-news story.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Yes. It's not that they don't do anything. I'm sure there are a lot of good-news stories in there. I'm just looking at the resources and how a crown corporation touches the citizens you represent.

Let's say this: their resources and their capabilities far exceed their performance on the ground floor in communities. Their continuation of the old ways I think is sunsetting in many respects, because it wouldn't come to this degree without basically a unified voice from a lot of people that this incredible asset is wasting away in ivory towers—

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

I hate to cut you off there, Mr. Masse—

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Oh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Your doing that is probably a public service for me.

4:30 p.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

Sure, okay: whatever works for you.

We'll move over to Mr. Baylis for seven minutes.

I think he was just waiting for me to cut him off.

4:30 p.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I'd like to start off by understanding how you're owned—or not owned—or funded. Perhaps you could give me a very quick overview. Do you have a physical space?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

We were started by two banks, RBC and CIBC. We started getting some government funding in 2002. We received a combination of federal, provincial, and corporate funding.

As of last October, we are borrowing all of our capital on a line of credit from a major bank, which means we're leveraging our balance sheet and not having to raise that money in any kind of fundraising. So that's the funding.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Are RBC and CIBC still funding you, or did they just get you started?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

They got us started. RBC is still a funder.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

So RBC is a funder. What's the percentage for the federal and the provincial?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

This is testing my math, but the federal is about 40% of our annual budget.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

That's federal.

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

Yes. It's 35% to 40%.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

And provincial?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

It's probably 25% to 30%.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

So 30% is RBC?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

No, then we also have loan repayments, so we're benefiting from the repayments of our young entrepreneurs. We have interest and fees.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

The young entrepreneurs, when they take that $15,000 or $30,000, have to pay it back, is that it?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

Yes. It's a loan. It's slightly lower than bank rates, and 80% to 90% repay.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

So 80% to 90% repay.

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

Yes. I think that's a good-news story, because even if they're not in business anymore, they're still good.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Is that the $15,000 or $30,000 of the BDC, or the combination?

4:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Futurpreneur Canada

Julia Deans

Futurpreneur Canada is for $15,000 and $30,000 is for BDC. There's one application, as BDC manages it's own loan.