In fact, I just wanted to tack on to the question that Carla answered. What we're seeing is that, at the small and mid-size company level, they do depend quite a bit on incubators across the country. Whether in southern Ontario, western Canada, or eastern Canada, these incubators bring together scientists, food researchers, along with food companies and others to try to help along product development. At that level there's actually quite a robust growth in start-up companies, and I think that's a hopeful sign because—
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