Evidence of meeting #32 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was data.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michael MacPherson
Anil Arora  Chief Statistician of Canada, Statistics Canada

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

I call the meeting to order.

Thank you, everybody, for coming in today to meeting 32 of the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology, pursuant to Standing Orders 110 and 111 and the order in council appointment of Anil Arora to the position of chief statistician of Canada, as referred to the committee on Friday, October 21, 2016.

Today we will be having a conversation with you.

Go ahead, Mr. Nuttall.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I know last week—it feels like a lot longer ago than that—we had the opportunity to briefly start a conversation in regard to the effects of a carbon tax on the manufacturing industry. I did need two business days for that to take effect. I'd like to move that motion at committee and deal with it. Mr. Chair, do you need me to read it out based on the previous—

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

No.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I have a point of order.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

Yes, Mr. Masse.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I'm just wondering if we had officially started the meeting.

3:50 p.m.

A voice

Yes, the gavel has sounded.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Then I will have additional motions to propose after that.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

Just one second here.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I didn't hear you, Mr. Chair.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

We started the meeting.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Right, but...okay.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

What are we not sure of?

Mr. Nuttall and then—

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Is this the first seven minutes of Conservative time?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

No, he's moving a motion. He has....

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I think it's important, because it is televised, that the public at least understand what's taking place here. That's what I'm concerned about, that at least there's some narrative. We're not having the witness just now because we're doing some business—

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

I'm going to get to that.

We have Mr. Arora here. I hope at some time that we will have time to talk to him about his qualifications and that he will be able to present to us.

However, Mr. Nuttall, you are able to move your motion.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Chandra Arya Liberal Nepean, ON

Regarding the camera in the room, is it a normal thing that a private TV—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

It's called democracy. People can come in.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Chandra Arya Liberal Nepean, ON

Is it a normal thing that anybody with a camera can come in to record it, or do we need a resolution?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

As per the clerk, they are allowed to do this under certain conditions, provided they file the proper paperwork. There is a whole list of rules as to what they're allowed to do. For instance, they can't just pan on everybody. They're pointing to the camera. It's the same as if we were in a regular televised session. The same rules apply.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Chandra Arya Liberal Nepean, ON

Are the clips going to be made available to us or to the committee?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

This is CTV, by the way. Everybody say hi to CTV.

We can ask for them. Here are the rules:

Video recording of committee meetings is subject to the express condition that the party so recording retain the original recording(s) for a period of thirty-five (35) days, and upon receipt of a request in writing from the Speaker, the Clerk or other authorized representative of the House of Commons, deliver forthwith the original recording(s) of any committee meeting video recorded pursuant to these rules.

Mr. Nuttall, you have the floor. Do you have your motion?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

Yes, and I was just advised that we do have members here who weren't present during the last one and would like to know what is going to be on the floor, so I would like to read it. I move:

That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee conduct a pre-budget study on the effects that the recently-announced Liberal Government carbon tax would have on the manufacturing sector; that this study be comprised of no less than four meetings to be held at the Committee's earliest convenience; that departmental officials from Innovation, Science, and Economic Development Canada be in attendance for at least one meeting; that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the Minister of Innovation, Science, and Economic Development Canada no later than February 15, 2017.

That is what is, I believe, on the floor at this point, Mr. Chair.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

It's on the floor.