I'll start. I completely agree. There tends to be and has been for a long time a trend towards getting the same people on the same boards because you know who that person is, and you're friends. As Mr. Lobb suggested, you play hockey together, for instance. That is a problem.
One of the things that we do at the ICD is that we have the directors register and there are a whole bunch of people out there who are prepared to sit on those boards, but it's also about getting people to know each other. We hold networking events across the country. We have 11 chapters across the country and 12,000 people interacting, so that at least you have a name. I think the #GoSponsorHer initiative that Catalyst is involved with is crucial because it introduces new people to people of influence, and that's what's going to drive change.