The 3,500 number is just in our pool. The total number of people in that register is 8,000, and we have 12,000 members. Roughly one-third of our members are women, and of the 3,500 number, those are people who have asked us to help them find a board position if one is available and suits their capabilities. A thousand of them are people who finished the director's education program, which is the leading education program in Canada.
There are probably 3,000 men who finished the program and a 1,000 women.