I think you're right. Part of what's going on is that we have to redefine what it means to be qualified for a board. Not that long ago, there was a view that unless you were a sitting CEO or a former CEO, you were not qualified to sit on a board. Therefore, there was a very limited pool of candidates you could go to. That's number one.
Number two is that we have to continue to build the pipeline of executives. Gender-based, race- and ethnicity-based, we have to continue to build that pipeline. This is not just about boards. This is about who holds senior positions of influence in Canada that will ultimately be tapped to sit on boards. If we have a dearth of those executives, whether they're female or otherwise, we're going to continue to have the board problem.