Fair enough. All I was trying to get at was how can two people in the same department have two different approaches on what you're trying to achieve, which is kind of the same thing. I'll leave it at that and move to a different topic now.
Within the lobbying registry with whom the minister has met with, Minister Duncan has met with almost all who one can say are reasonable, they're universities, etc.
The one that I would question though or try to understand, and maybe you can't comment on it, is how is it that the Minister of Science meets with the Woodbine Entertainment Group? Basically, it's a casino and horse racing track. What relevance is there to that? Is that a constituent of yours? How does that happen?