Do you have any data so we could correlate this number of tech transfer officers in a university or in a mini-cluster such as the WCIO with this much commercialization? Everybody threw a lot of stats out. One of the stats I'm looking for is if you had a certain number of tech transfer officers, how much commercialization and how many jobs were created.
Also, do you believe that it needs to continue in this form, or should we look into possibly privatizing the whole tech transfer?
We can start with Mr. Porter and go to Mr. Susalka, and then probably Mr. Hinton can touch on it.