Okay.
Mr. Beney, in your presentation or brief, I thought somewhere in there was a recommendation that we need to help universities understand the transfer of technology. I'm probably saying it the wrong way.
I guess when I see the billions of dollars that industry and governments in Ottawa and across the country are spending, I would be a little disappointed if university researchers still don't have a clue about the importance of patents. Is this problem out there, or am I reading this the wrong way?