Thank you, Mr. Chair, and my thanks to our witnesses.
One of the things that has become evident during the testimony we've received is that there's lots of money going out the door for research and partnerships, but there doesn't seem to be any coordination. In fact, one of the biggest questions I ask is, what is it we want from our results? We don't seem to have an answer for that. We're seeking out something, a final result, that we don't even know yet.
For myself and the constituency I represent—tool and die, mould-making, automotive—it's patents that lead to manufacturing and good jobs. What has become frustrating is that you develop some of these patents and then they go to the United States or some other country. These companies in other places end up putting Canadian companies out of work. Canadian companies have had patents developed by their own workers who go to work every single day just trying to get by. It doesn't seem to be much of a strategy.
Mr. Dixon, you've clustered 15 universities here. Who gets in and out of the cluster of 15 universities? From an organizational perspective, why wouldn't we do that with all universities and all colleges and create some type of a base expectation and an exit program, a pooling of resources? Or are we all just continually replicating things, with people left out of it? Why is it not U10, U20, or along that line? Why is it U15?