Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Dixon, you mentioned about how good Israel is, etc., but there are also other issues. The difference is the Israeli defence and the Israeli military. The universities do a lot of research and development that lead to innovation, but they don't hold onto the IP rights. They allow their personnel to take the entire IP with them to the technology sector. That's where it allows them to prosper, but I'll come back to you on that if I have time.
Dr. Hinzer, what about this idea that a lot of research done by the universities is done with taxpayers' dollars? Also, sometimes some SMEs join hands, along with taxpayers' dollars, to fund innovation. Why should the IP rights be limited to universities? Why doesn't it have to go to the SMEs?