Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all of our presenters.
I'd like to go back to what I call the collaborative model, what you called collaborative research. Specifically, you talked about open and early-stage research and bringing the public as well as the companies into this process. We know that most of the research is happening in the universities. Given the fact that most research is done by professors and the, let's say, post-doctoral students, and there is the concept of protecting that and keeping it away from the outside world so it can be considered as pure or fundamental research, how do you reconcile that? We've heard that there are some best practices out there. You gave us two examples of those. You said how successful it is; it's collaborative; it has cut the cycle time and it generates jobs. Then we talked about the fact that we need fundamental research, pure research, and it's a much longer term. We naturally want to be able to look into how we can commercialize or how we can do the technology transfer in an efficient and effective way in a short period of time. In your opinion, how do we reconcile these two things?
The question is for both Bert and Ted.