That's terrific. Thank you. That's an approach I took through my 30-year career as well. When you're working openly, you can come to better solutions.
We did have alternative testimony a few meetings back from Mr. Balsillie on IP. It is interesting to see that you're also using the Lazaridis Family Foundation. These are two very different approaches to creating solutions in the marketplace.
I'd like to pivot over to StarFish. You mentioned one of the companies in my riding, Linamar and Linamar MacDon. I'm originally from Winnipeg and used to do a lot of work with MacDon back in the 1980s. Looking at using the collaboration among NRC, IRAP and NGen and working with Health Canada, and the importance of lining everything up correctly in order for the government to function correctly in terms of making the best use of all partners, and at the same time getting through the regulatory hurdles that you have to get through, could you comment on the strategy you've used in order to draw the best from all partners to create a solution for Canadians?