The definition in the act is actually quite broad. It encompasses direct and indirect influence, influence of individuals, and it allows the minister to make a determination after taking into account all of the facts. In fact, if you ask the members of the bar, and I believe you've had a number of them before you, they would probably say that is quite an open provision, and it's actually one that we would log—
On June 18th, 2020. See this statement in context.