Madam Chair, I thank the honourable member for the intervention.
We are well aware of those issues. We are certainly working with our colleagues at BDC, the financial Crown corporations, and I would say more generally with the finance ministry and the other central agencies, to make sure that the small business perspective is brought to the table and that those issues are considered in the design of those programs.
I think the honourable member makes a good point, and we're very alive to that.