Perhaps I could jump in.
Thank you, Joanne.
Madam Chair, a very exhaustive effort was done to make sure that the conflict of interest protocols used by the task force were equivalent to those of all major granting bodies. We looked carefully at what CIHR had done. We looked at other countries and what they had done. This meets all of the same kinds of tests.
There were rigorous declarations. Joanne mentioned that in all of the cases, about 30 people recused themselves when they were found to have a direct conflict or the appearance of one.
With regard to the cases that are on the NRC website, these are the announced projects by the government. There are eight cases of recusal in those projects that have been announced where the advice of the task force was taken by the government and investments were made. It meets the very highest standards.
We spoke about credibility. The task force numbers are incredibly—