I agree with Mike on that.
Before this pandemic, our industry had problems and we had massive labour shortages. Through this pandemic, right now what's happening is that our union has about 10,000 people on layoff, furlough or not at work currently.
I know there are several thousands of workers right now who are out of work. Many of them are recycling themselves and going into other industries, and the more senior employees, to give space to the younger ones, are retiring. By doing that, though, there's no transmission of information, knowledge, etc.
I think it's really important to support training and these employers, to keep these older workers at work to train the new generation of workers and all that. I think there's something to be said on that side.