Yes, although certainly Germany is experiencing the same crisis we're experiencing here in Canada and they took a 20% equity stake. It seems to me it should be on the table in a serious way.
Mr. Gibbons, what do you think about what France and the Dutch government have done? They say they're going to be there to support their airline sector, but they're committed to a sustainable recovery, as Ms. Tiessen just said. They're going to drive emission reductions and they want commitments from the airline sector to drive emission reductions as they bail them out.