That's a very good question, Mr. Masse.
I did work for Toyota Canada, public relations, Lexus Toyota. I introduced the first hybrid model in Canada. You would know it today as the Prius. Back then it was called the Tsunami. We changed the name for good reasons. While it is older technology, nevertheless in electric vehicles not everything that is new doesn't have a background in being old. We had electrical vehicles in the 1920s. We abandoned those.
It's not to say we shouldn't proceed in that direction, but what are we trying to achieve here? The economic impact of saying if we shut down every vehicle that has an internal combustion engine around the world, that would see a 6% drop in carbon emissions globally. It's a nice idea, and short of being those who have money and interests and are funded by taxpayers and subsidies to espouse the new technology, the new green economy, I think we have to deal with facts at hand. We see the Pacifica model being threatened. I think that's a signal to the rest of Ontario of just how bad things are going to get from the closure of Line 5 among other things.