I can't speak on behalf of Mr. Gagné because I'm not exactly sure what he was involved in, but I think he took part in the work on ethics done by the group of experts that preceded the proposed European Union regulations.
What I'm talking about are proposed regulations disclosed in 2021 by the European Commission, and afterwards adopted by the Council of the European Union in December 2022, and by the European Parliament in June 2023. In Europe, law is decided by three partners or co‑legislators. In the case under discussion, the three partners have to agree on the same wording, because where things stand now, each has adopted different versions. Since the summer, and particularly since September, this trialogue has been under way, and there has indeed been debate among the representatives of these three institutions. There is going to be a very important meeting tomorrow—the fifth of its kind. It is therefore possible that there might be political agreement on the wording, which in any event must be adopted before the coming European elections prior to June 2024.