With regard to the ISED situation, ISED representatives were open and transparent about the investigation from day one and provided weekly debriefs on the progress. There was no coercion in any of this.
Here are the real facts of the matter. ISED representatives have said on multiple occasions that there were no briefings made to the PCO regarding the situation. This is a lie. We have evidence that the deputy minister and ADM were in continuous conversations with the PCO, because the investigation included GIC appointees. The minister said, on the record and multiple times, that he was briefed on the outcome only on August 27, but that's definitively not true. He lied at the ethics committee. The deputy minister spoke to the minister's office and the minister on several occasions before the briefings were finalized, including about edits that were made on behalf of the minister's office.
The real truth of the matter is that there was a definitive consensus across the bureaucracy at both ISED and the PCO that the full board and executive team at SDTC needed to be terminated. This was described to us in detail and on multiple occasions in late August and September. The outcome of this situation changed only when the minister's office became involved. He is ultimately responsible for SDTC. He is the one who needs to tell the truth about what the real situation is.
With regard to some of this, we have already submitted clips and transcripts from September 1 and September 29 that provide all the detailed information. If I have some time, I'd like to go over some of that.