Evidence of meeting #116 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mark Schaan  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry
Samir Chhabra  Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Department of Industry
Runa Angus  Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I'm sorry. What page is that?

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Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Mark Schaan

Give me two seconds.

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Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Runa Angus

It's on page 30, in proposed paragraph 62(2)(e).

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I don't see any reference to minors or children.

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Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Runa Angus

It's a reference to sensitive information.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

That's regardless of age, so it's doesn't specifically call for minors—

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Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Runa Angus

It includes minors.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

—to be treated in a different way. They're treated the same as adults.

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Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Runa Angus

It's the sensitive information of all adults and all information about minors.

It's not going to be treated exactly the same way as it is for adults, because only sensitive information of adults will be treated as sensitive. For children and minors, all of their information is considered sensitive and treated in that way.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

No, not if the amendment passes. I'm talking about the existing bill.

In the existing bill, where does it state that minors' information is treated differently?

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Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Runa Angus

It is at the very top of page 6. It reads, “Interpretation—minors”.

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Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Mark Schaan

It reads, “For the purposes of this Act, the personal information of minors is considered to be sensitive information.”

This provision, which Ms. Angus just read out, is how sensitive information is treated in the act.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Okay. Not being a lawyer, I need you to help me out. That is the only reference to minors I found in the act, and it uses the exact same language as it does for adults, which is that it's sensitive information.

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Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Mark Schaan

No. The important clarification is that there is information of adults, and a subset of information related to adults can be considered sensitive. What this does is include all information related to minors as sensitive.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

It's all information, as opposed to some.

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Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Mark Schaan

That's correct.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Okay. Thank you for explaining that.

Mr. Chair is not here.

Mr. Vice-Chair—

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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An hon. member

Give him a break.

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NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

On a point of order, I'd like a clarification, Mr. Chair, about NDP-1 and CPC-1.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Mr. Masse.

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NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I believe NDP-1 is no longer relevant if CPC-1 passes, if I'm correct.

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I'm not sure that's true, because CPC-1 has—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

No, this is not the information I have, but I can—

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Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

It has additional things.