I don't know what you call a timetable, Mr. Simard.
I reiterate that with ELYSIS, for the first time in the world in the last 100 years, we are reinventing how aluminum is produced. This is not an easy process. If it were, someone would already have found a way to do it.
As for where the ELYSIS project will have got to in 2030 or 2031, I have no idea. If I gave you another answer, I would be lying. This is a technology that we are going to industrialize step by step. We will start building industrial-sized plants when we are satisfied that it can work at that scale. Other than telling you that I believe in this technology, the good news is that we have managed to produce aluminum at a sizable scale with no carbon emissions, thanks to the ELYSIS technology, so this is a project that has moved out of the laboratory.
Now, between leaving the laboratory and industrializing, we have to be able to replicate the process at the scale of the real pots. You have not said it, but, as you know, we have already announced that after producing aluminum with ELYSIS in 150 ampere pots, we were going to move on to 450 ampere pots. As for the timetable, what you asked me about, we said we would do it in 2024 in Saguenay—Lac-Saint-Jean, and we are working on it. We are also working on other stages of ELYSIS and, as I said, I hope to be able to announce them soon.