Evidence of meeting #127 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was merger.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Larouche  Professor, Law and Innovation, Faculty of Law, Université de Montréal, As an Individual
Matthew Boswell  Commissioner of Competition, Competition Bureau Canada
Antonio Di Domenico  Secretary, Competition Law and Foreign Investment Review Section, The Canadian Bar Association
Anthony Durocher  Deputy Commissioner, Competition Promotion Branch, Competition Bureau Canada

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

You're avoiding the question.

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

I don't know why the Conservatives are ignoring the major driver and looking at other things.

We have something glaring in front of us that's hurting Canadians: the massive profits being accrued by CEOs of these large corporations. The Conservatives want to ignore that—the major driver of the high cost of food—and want Canadians to believe they actually care.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

The only thing that's being ignored right here is my question, Mr. Singh. You're ignoring my question on the carbon tax, which puts up food costs.

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

Well, you're ignoring the major driver that is putting up the cost of food in our country.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Mr. Singh, you put a lot of fog in your support for the carbon tax recently at the Broadbent Institute. Do you support the carbon tax, yes or no?

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

It's very interesting to me that we're talking about food prices, that I've made the assertion that corporate greed is driving up the cost of food and that Canadians agree with this assertion, and that the member doesn't want to talk about corporate greed. The substance of this bill—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I'm talking about food prices, and the carbon tax is pushing up food prices.

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

The substance of this bill is to take on corporate greed.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Will you answer a question or are you just taking PMO talking points again?

Does the carbon tax push up the price of food, and do you support the carbon tax, yes or no?

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

The major driver pushing up the cost of food is corporate greed, and I don't know why the member doesn't want to talk about—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

The major driver is this government's policies that you support.

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

—the corporate greed that is ripping off Canadians. When Canadians go in the grocery store and are paying more money than ever for their groceries, they know they're getting ripped off.

I don't know why the member doesn't want to talk about corporate greed.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

How many people are now going to the food banks as a result of your support of this Liberal government?

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

As a result of subsequent Conservative and Liberal governments that have not taken on corporate greed and that have ignored CEOs ripping off Canadians, right now one in four Canadians is skipping meals. There's record food bank usage because Liberals and Conservatives—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Thanks to your support of the Liberal policies.

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

—refuse to go after corporate greed.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

When you visited striking Metro workers and went on their picket line, did you inform them that your brother and your NDP spokesman both lobby for Metro?

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

First of all, that's patently false. Second, the member knows very well that we have opposed corporate greed when it comes to Metro, Sobeys, Loblaws, Walmart and Costco. However, it's interesting to me that Conservatives will attack everybody, including my family, rather than attack the CEOs who are ripping off Canadians. That is very telling—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

We're just attacking your hypocrisy.

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

—of who the Conservatives are.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

So, when you attacked Loblaws—

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

This is while I'm directly going after the CEOs and corporations.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Mr. Perkins, I'd appreciate it if you could stay respectful in the words you choose at this committee.

I'll let you proceed.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

He could avoid it if he answered the questions rather than avoiding them like the Liberals do.

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Jagmeet Singh NDP Burnaby South, BC

No, no, sir. You know that I directly addressed the matter—