It's more about regulations. I think some things could be revised in terms of leniency, for example, with approvals. Lots of policy-driven obstacles actually get in the way. I can think of how to have access to land, for example, or where to build, working with cities, access to water and treatment of water. I'm not suggesting we should be lenient on every front, but I do think costs are prohibitive for SMEs when looking at food processing.
Often the government will actually look at food manufacturing the same way they would look at car manufacturing or manufacturing in other sectors. The reality is that margins are incredibly low, which means that the margin for error is almost nil. That's why we're seeing a lot of plants, whether it's in Ontario or elsewhere, that are undercapitalized. They need to focus on automation right now. They need to focus on the use of robotics, and we're not seeing the investments. Even Cargill has one plant that is on strike right now in Guelph, and there's another plant owned by Cargill that could go on strike within days in Calgary. Cargill is a massive organization, with $170 billion in revenue last year, and it's hesitating to invest in Canada just because of some of the regulations we have.
I've actually had discussions with Mr. Champagne about this. Creating competition is a bit of a false narrative, in my view. I think what's important for governments to recognize is that it needs to enable conditions in order for competition to emerge. That's really the most important thing. We haven't seen that in the food sector.