What happened here was about the designation of abstaining versus recusing myself, in terms of the conflict of interest. That was the thing the commissioner identified that I did not live up to, and I should have lived up to that. I recognize that.
However, I have no direct interest in any of the companies other than the one I declared 18 months before I became chair. I have no direct interest in any of those organizations. There is a perceived conflict, yes, but there's no direct investment.