I cannot answer. The only record we have is that she called and spoke to one of my officers. Unfortunately, that officer has since left, and the email in which she reported what her conversation with Ms. Verschuren was is no longer there because we erased it once she left.
I honestly don't know what she discussed, to what extent she explained things to her or what they talked about. All I know is that it was a very short conversation between her and one of my officers.