Yes, sir, it's available on their website. I saw your name there.
I guess what I'm pointing out is the inherent conflict of interest that exists by having the customers of Interac sit on the board to set the pricing that disadvantages smaller entities.
This is the final question, sir. I appreciate your being here today in the hot seat.
You're an independent member of the board of Interac. Would you support forcing the banks to divest their ownership of Interac?