I know we have a wide scope in trying to deal with this, but I noticed, in this meeting and the last meeting, that we're getting very far away from credit card costs and so forth. I give the parliamentary secretary credit for raising an important issue, but could it at least be somehow tied to credit cards and those expenses for consumers? I don't want to dissuade discussion on anything. At the same time, we're getting into food pricing and carbon from a number of different members here. I think the last meeting was almost predominantly taken up by that argument.
I'll leave it at that.