I'll just advise members that, as you know, for public servants there is a bit of a tension between.... They do provide advice to the cabinet, and there is a limit to what they can share.
There is no limit to what the committee can ask, but understand that there's this tension that the public servants are under when they're testifying before this committee. There's a line....
I have Mr. Masse and then Madam Rempel Garner.