Interac is a privately held company so we don't disclose our financial results.
We do surveys on our products to ensure that we understand how consumers are using them. E-transfer is free to 95% of Canadians, and that's because the 230 participants bundle the pricing of e-transfers into a number of different products that you and I would use from a financial institution. Only 5% of Canadians actually pay for e-transfers, and I think that's part of the reason for its mass adoption and success in the marketplace.