Okay.
Based on the testimony and interactions I've heard of other colleagues, it really feels like this is the Liberal Party campus club at the local university treatment. It's like he is trying to become the treasurer of the local campus club.
Based on media reports, Mark Carney is being considered to the next finance minister of Canada or the special adviser. This has been going on for years; it is not new. The fact that this is just being glossed over as a “whatever” deal is a bit offensive to this committee, as well as to Canadians and Canadian businesses that have been struggling over the last number of years.
When we look at conflicts of interest, even if they're just perceived.... I think there is something a bit more substantive here than just the perception.
Are you not concerned at all, based on what you've heard here today, about an apparent conflict with Mark Carney being the special adviser to the Prime Minister, as well as the prospective future finance minister of a G8 country, and his sitting on your board? We're sitting here today because the Government of Canada has issued a request to you to lower your fees. Mark Carney sits on your board as the financial adviser to the Prime Minister, and your company has just said, “No, we're not going to do it.”