Yes, I can speak maybe a bit from a U.S. perspective as well, because I think it speaks a little more to my experience.
The major challenge with China right now is that they are a dominant part of the processing, the point where the mineral comes out and becomes something useful, so today, even in the United States or Canada, if you extract something, it may have to go to China to acquire value. You have to think about your position throughout the value chain. Sometimes, the extraction itself doesn't get you much diversification if there's only one buyer and that is China, and you have to send all your commodities there.
I think it's important to think about the entire value chain, and that is where collaboration can happen. One country may have the minerals. Another country may have capabilities to turn the minerals into useful products. A third country may have the final industries, whether it's automotive or batteries. That is the kind of collaboration that I think we need, but it has to sink through the entire value chain. The extraction is just the beginning. That's not where most of the value is. Most of the value is in being able to access the mineral and, in the case of lithium, to ultimately turn it into a battery in an electric vehicle.
The money is not really in the lithium. I mean, there is money in the lithium, but the money is really in the final product.