Let's make sure we don't confuse the time zones, because let's remember, MP Dong, that I was in Tokyo at that moment. When I said four or five, I meant 4 or 5 a.m. Tokyo time. This was still pretty much early morning for me in Tokyo, so one would have to work back.
I immediately called Tony Staffieri. Your point, if I may, MP Dong, is exactly the point that I made to them. It should not be for the minister to chase the CEO of a major telco in Canada when something like this happens. Rather, it should be the other way around.
That's why I insisted on the three points I noted. I want a formal agreement, and I insisted that we have a communication protocol first with the public, because the public is entitled to know what's going on, and second with the Government of Canada. It's to make sure that when any such thing happens, there's a better communication channel.
I must say that since this happened, the CEO of Rogers has reached out to me to update me regularly, and I think we already see improvements in that respect. This needs to be codified, and that's what the formal binding agreement will be doing.